tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post116978806485965637..comments2011-02-01T03:08:57.101-05:00FauxClaudhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00794052679215498158noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1171579146871498112007-02-15T17:39:00.000-05:002007-02-15T17:39:00.000-05:00Okay, so one of these three girls has turned herself in. But there has been nothing further in the news about them.<BR/><BR/>I'm very worried, where are those other two girls?<BR/><BR/>And I want to know why there isn't an Amber Alert out for them!!! <BR/><BR/>Who cares if they hit someone in the head, they are minors, they are runaways, they are far from home, and they need decent prenatal care.<BR/><BR/>As for the girl in custody, I want to find out her story and I really want to find out that she's at home with her own mother.<BR/><BR/>But nothing, nothing at all is being reported.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170714089973462142007-02-05T17:21:00.000-05:002007-02-05T17:21:00.000-05:00I'm a 67 year old grandmother, and have been pro-choice since the fifties. This incident is just one more point for the pro-choice people to use. Maybe these girls wouldn't have chosen that, but it could be a possibility. I didn't even know there were still some of these homes in existance until this morning when I Googled the topic. It is outrageous that taxpayers are subsidizing them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170613915599171992007-02-04T13:31:00.000-05:002007-02-04T13:31:00.000-05:00Claud, <BR/><BR/>Just a suggestion. This really has the makings of a fantastic investigative report, it just has to get into the right hands. You may want to try contacting KUTV news in Salt Lake City which is NOT owned by the Mormon church as is KSL. Rod Decker is the oldest and most experienced reporter there. Maybe send him an email starting with the letter you wrote. I'd also copy the assignment editor on the assignment desk so if Decker takes a pass it stands a chance of getting to somebody else.Ninahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12077857199651890460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170613259765818542007-02-04T13:20:00.000-05:002007-02-04T13:20:00.000-05:00Claud, Had not heard this story. Wow. Had NO idea such maternity homes existed today, although, having lived and worked in Utah for four years some number of years ago, I am not surprised that one exists in "Mercan Fork" as the locals pronounce it. The letter you wrote was perfect.Ninahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12077857199651890460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170521234382910882007-02-03T11:47:00.000-05:002007-02-03T11:47:00.000-05:00It is indeed a sad story and maternity homes should be relics of the past. The fact that this one was up and running came as a shocker.<BR/><BR/>Stealing a car or a credit card in any other context would not be condoned. I can't see making an exception here. Violence can be justified against others if it is necessary to defend one's self. However, if the facility was unlocked the girls didn't need to whack the manager with a frying pan and tie her up. They could have just chosen to walk out the door.<BR/><BR/>BTW, I couldn't condone murdering the people running the place either. That seems to be where the logic here is going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170466664054596062007-02-02T20:37:00.000-05:002007-02-02T20:37:00.000-05:00Well, to Anon, who seems to be judging these mothers-to-be for using any means necessary to escape captivity and certain adoption for their babies: when is violence okay? What would you do to save your child if you have one? Probably much more than a whack with a frying pan...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170358387297121042007-02-01T14:33:00.000-05:002007-02-01T14:33:00.000-05:00"Its unlikely the charges will be dropped."<BR/><BR/>Most. One has already turned herself in, and no doubt they'll all be rounded up sooner or later.<BR/><BR/>"If the girls had run away from this unlocked facility without hitting someone with a frying pan,"<BR/><BR/>Would you have preferred they'd used the more traditional poker or golf club? I rather like the idea of the frying pan myself. It has a certain Martha Stewart touch. "It's a Good Thing." <BR/><BR/>"without tying them up, without stealing a car it would be different."<BR/><BR/>Among the things that would have been different is the fact that nobody'd have ever heard of them or their rebellion in the face of involuntary incarceration.<BR/>And regardless of whether the facility was unlocked or not, they wouldn't have got very far without taking the actions that they did. Dint of necessity, if they were to get away.<BR/><BR/>This is a really sad story, and these girls should never have been subjected to this kind of misguided treatment in the first place. <BR/>I'm very concerned for them and their soon-to-be children, and I hope someone who can make a difference has the decency to listen to them and take them seriously.kippahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11249530320535461533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170168231456575392007-01-30T09:43:00.000-05:002007-01-30T09:43:00.000-05:00Its unlikely the charges will be dropped. If the girls had run away from this unlocked facility without hitting someone with a frying pan, without tying them up, without stealing a car it would be different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170099270183396632007-01-29T14:34:00.000-05:002007-01-29T14:34:00.000-05:00Fantastic response, Claud! I hope the reporter that you talked to will give you coverage!<BR/><BR/>And is it at all possible that these young expectant mothers could have the charges against them dropped so that they could find the resources to parent their children without further complications?Overwhelmed!http://www.blogger.com/profile/03213476355485623906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1170088094367160752007-01-29T11:28:00.000-05:002007-01-29T11:28:00.000-05:00Question...at what point do we worry that these girls met harm...maybe the story is not as it was told to police...has anyone actually heard from them?? I admit that I have not kept current on the story...DebiPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11634237983036753381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169921851571955812007-01-27T13:17:00.000-05:002007-01-27T13:17:00.000-05:00Great letter, Claud.<BR/><BR/>I am relieved to hear that these mothers-to-be have been heard from since they escaped. I am very worried that they are stuck in a snowdrift somewhere and will die since the truck has not been noticed anywhere.<BR/><BR/>But I worry also for them when they are found. Adoption relies on smearing real mothers to get babies and it's going to be difficult for them to buck the well-greased system no matter how hard they might try, if they try. In a sane world, escaping from incarceration to save your babies (if that was actually their motive) is only regarded as more proof of the mothers' unfitness, not evidence that adoption is wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169882418437831492007-01-27T02:20:00.000-05:002007-01-27T02:20:00.000-05:00Very well said and exactly how I've been feeling. I have been extremely concerned about these girls. It is my hope they have help and support and that when they are found they will be allowed to tell their sides of the story. I fear for them and their babies if and when they are found. <BR/><BR/>I have written a blog addressing my concerns about the facility where they were staying. The director has had past affiliations with the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS). Please see the links below that will help explain my concerns.<BR/><BR/>One more thing ... I too called this reporter and she was typing as we spoke. I was under the impression she was interested in what I had to say and that she may do another piece on this. I didn't see anything today. I have a website at www.caica.org where I post the news for anyone who is interested. If anyone who reads this had a negative experience at either New Beginnings Maternity in Kanab, UT, or in New Hope Maternity in American Fork, UT, I would love to hear from you at info@caica.org. <BR/><BR/>Blog: http://missingteens.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>Info re WWASPS:<BR/>http://caica.org/NEWS%20WWASP%20Main.htm<BR/><BR/>Isabelle Zehnder<BR/>www.caica.org<BR/>info@caica.orgIsabelle Zehnderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05064388380870609233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169875692778602712007-01-27T00:28:00.000-05:002007-01-27T00:28:00.000-05:00It was kinda odd...She seemed distracted and at first confused as to who I was. I ended up caling her as I had to go out and do stuff ( Scarlett's birthday Pricess tea party is on Sunday) and I didn't want to miss her call.<BR/><BR/>She seemed interested...was typing though out the whole thing? I suppose, I hope, typing out what I was saying? I basically just expanded on my letter...more details..of course I cannot remember it all now. Reommended TGWWA, the research sites again on OUSA, the coercion tactics etc..that momst moms do not want to lose their kids, that we are not born that way, etc. That the industry exploits the natural fears and doubts that anyone has with a major event like birth, etc. The profit of the idusrty, etc. <BR/><BR/>The one thing she did ask was one of the "well these kids are 15..so how can they have babies" at least allong those lines..and I was able to saty that young moms can be very good moms with support, but thinking that they were going to be "Ok" after losing their kids was just crap. That rality was that no matter how old, they were mothers and not breeders.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what she plans on doing with it, or anything. I did mention that I know many moms who had been in the same situations, Robin...she didn't bite on that.So I realy do not know if it did any good..I guess on just has to keep checking that paper??FauxClaudhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00794052679215498158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169869088466423462007-01-26T22:38:00.000-05:002007-01-26T22:38:00.000-05:00Claud, great letter. Please post how your conversation with the reporter goes - hopefully it will spark her to investigate the homes and do a story on them.Third Momhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06310395341252295955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169856973613626132007-01-26T19:16:00.000-05:002007-01-26T19:16:00.000-05:00I had NO IDEA that the government was funding these maternity homes to the tune of millions of dollars. When I read Ann Fessler's book, I had the feeling that the families paid the cost. It's horrendous that the government would fund pushing adoption on unsuspecting girls and their families. <BR/><BR/>It certainly looks like these girls were acting in self defense. It's not like they splurged with the woman's credit card. I hope the girls take care of each other, have their babies and are never found.MomEtc.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02437205472399869633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169855532552717272007-01-26T18:52:00.000-05:002007-01-26T18:52:00.000-05:00That's a great email -- obviously, because it got her attention. Way to go!!<BR/><BR/>(I got to your blog via mutual bloggers that we have in common; not even sure who now because I've been a'surfin' today).Mom2Onehttp://justenjoyhim.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169834380727449452007-01-26T12:59:00.000-05:002007-01-26T12:59:00.000-05:00Claud, I would love it if you could refer her, as well, to some of us moms that "did time" in maternity homes. From what I have read about this one, it's no different from the ones where we were incarcerated...just different semantics. It still comes down to warehousing breeders for the adoption industry.Robinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169824686973080392007-01-26T10:18:00.000-05:002007-01-26T10:18:00.000-05:00Yes, good work for sure. Thank you for doing this.MaeDayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08492886727753643883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19573045.post-1169822532880657242007-01-26T09:42:00.000-05:002007-01-26T09:42:00.000-05:00Whoa....very nice, can't wait to hear about the call...good work once again Claud...you are amazing and a credit to moms everywereDebiPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11634237983036753381noreply@blogger.com